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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
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This thread has it all.

Not everything. We are four pages in and no one has mentioned that since women are, in general, lighter than men they have less of a pulley effect on gear when they fall.

Also, since they are lighter, gravity doesn't affect them as much. The Vikings discovered that. I think their beards made them smarter.


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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
tready wrote:
This thread has it all.

Not everything. We are four pages in and no one has mentioned that since women are, in general, lighter than men they have less of a pulley effect on gear when they fall.

according to science magazine women's egos weigh less because it costs more to eat all that meat.Crazy


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tready wrote:
Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
tready wrote:
This thread has it all.

Not everything. We are four pages in and no one has mentioned that since women are, in general, lighter than men they have less of a pulley effect on gear when they fall.

Also, since they are lighter, gravity doesn't affect them as much. The Vikings discovered that. I think their beards made them smarter.

I dont know about beards, but SCIENCE MAGAZINE SAID WOMEN COST LESS BECAUSE their egos weigh less


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dugl33 wrote:
enigma wrote:
dugl33 wrote:
enigma wrote:

Have you climbed in Joshua Tree? So a climb such as illusion dweller which I believe is a 5.11 would be a 5.10a in Montana?

Illusion Dweller is rated 10b, which seems about right.

You are right!

( what about Left Ski Track-5.11a/or Northwest Finger Crack -5.11a--J.Tree
are those equal to climbs in Montana that are rated 5.10a ?)

What do I care what some Montana sheep-rider thinks of California ratings? YDS was invented here, therefore our ratings are definitive -- all others are merely derivative approximations.

The worst part is I think dugl33 is being serious.Crazy


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enigma wrote:
caughtinside wrote:
I lead to satisfy my male ego.


Tongue

I lead to crush the egos of the climbers around me.

Smile


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chadnsc wrote:
dugl33 wrote:
enigma wrote:
dugl33 wrote:
enigma wrote:

Have you climbed in Joshua Tree? So a climb such as illusion dweller which I believe is a 5.11 would be a 5.10a in Montana?

Illusion Dweller is rated 10b, which seems about right.

You are right!

( what about Left Ski Track-5.11a/or Northwest Finger Crack -5.11a--J.Tree
are those equal to climbs in Montana that are rated 5.10a ?)

What do I care what some Montana sheep-rider thinks of California ratings? YDS was invented here, therefore our ratings are definitive -- all others are merely derivative approximations.

The worst part is I think dugl33 is being serious.Crazy

the folks at science magazine speficially wrote about this and his ego costing too much for ceturions on the sharp end. i bet he's never downclimbed 5.6 slab for six hundred feet either.


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enigma wrote:
redonkulus wrote:
special_blend wrote:
enigma wrote:
While there alot of good reasons to lead.


If you are a guy ;
I presume your male ego forces you to lead?

What's your opinion on this subject?


Cool

This makes me rage. Ego has nothing to do with it.

Some men are compelled to lead, it simply seems like the natural choice. For them it seems like a natural decision to make to simply be a leader in some things or all things. It may not be because of his "ego" but rather simply because that's his drive, he has to lead to satisfy that burning need. It's got nothing to do with any type of self-centered behaviour where the man thinks he is somehow weaker or less of a man if he isn't leading or even following a woman.

It could also be that when a guy is leading all the time it's because the people around him see him as a natural choice to leader, either because he has more experience, knowledge, is stronger, or perhaps because his personality makes him a natural fit to lead teams. Once again, nothing to do with any ego bullshit.


I really fucking hate that bullshit feminist angle that Men constantly need to satisfy their "male ego"


Pretty sure she means lead as in lead climbing, I.E. not being on top rope, rather than as in being a leader or charismatic figure that others follow.

True, They lead to their limit. I follow , clean , good belay. Everyone is happy at the end of the day.
We sit around the campfire. Its all good.
So at the day had a happy ending?
Shocked


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
chadnsc wrote:
dugl33 wrote:
enigma wrote:
dugl33 wrote:
enigma wrote:

Have you climbed in Joshua Tree? So a climb such as illusion dweller which I believe is a 5.11 would be a 5.10a in Montana?

Illusion Dweller is rated 10b, which seems about right.

You are right!

( what about Left Ski Track-5.11a/or Northwest Finger Crack -5.11a--J.Tree
are those equal to climbs in Montana that are rated 5.10a ?)

What do I care what some Montana sheep-rider thinks of California ratings? YDS was invented here, therefore our ratings are definitive -- all others are merely derivative approximations.

The worst part is I think dugl33 is being serious.Crazy

the folks at science magazine speficially wrote about this and his ego costing too much for ceturions on the sharp end. i bet he's never downclimbed 5.6 slab for six hundred feet either.

Did you hear fish from Chile is replacing the tainted radiation fish from Japan?

Can't you downclimb?

You have been on that endless climbing trip for years now.
I bet you can become a Patagonia Guide. Cool
















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tready wrote:
Toast_in_the_Machine wrote:
tready wrote:
This thread has it all.

Not everything. We are four pages in and no one has mentioned that since women are, in general, lighter than men they have less of a pulley effect on gear when they fall.

Also, since they are lighter, gravity doesn't affect them as much. The Vikings discovered that. I think their beards made them smarter.
My wife is so light, she doesn't actually lead. I push her up with the rope.


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donald949 wrote:
enigma wrote:
redonkulus wrote:
special_blend wrote:
enigma wrote:
While there alot of good reasons to lead.


If you are a guy ;
I presume your male ego forces you to lead?

What's your opinion on this subject?


Cool

This makes me rage. Ego has nothing to do with it.

Some men are compelled to lead, it simply seems like the natural choice. For them it seems like a natural decision to make to simply be a leader in some things or all things. It may not be because of his "ego" but rather simply because that's his drive, he has to lead to satisfy that burning need. It's got nothing to do with any type of self-centered behaviour where the man thinks he is somehow weaker or less of a man if he isn't leading or even following a woman.

It could also be that when a guy is leading all the time it's because the people around him see him as a natural choice to leader, either because he has more experience, knowledge, is stronger, or perhaps because his personality makes him a natural fit to lead teams. Once again, nothing to do with any ego bullshit.


I really fucking hate that bullshit feminist angle that Men constantly need to satisfy their "male ego"


Pretty sure she means lead as in lead climbing, I.E. not being on top rope, rather than as in being a leader or charismatic figure that others follow.

True, They lead to their limit. I follow , clean , good belay. Everyone is happy at the end of the day.
We sit around the campfire. Its all good.
So at the day had a happy ending?
Shocked


Of course, or I ......


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Gmburns2000 wrote:
chadnsc wrote:
dugl33 wrote:
enigma wrote:
dugl33 wrote:
enigma wrote:

Have you climbed in Joshua Tree? So a climb such as illusion dweller which I believe is a 5.11 would be a 5.10a in Montana?

Illusion Dweller is rated 10b, which seems about right.

You are right!

( what about Left Ski Track-5.11a/or Northwest Finger Crack -5.11a--J.Tree
are those equal to climbs in Montana that are rated 5.10a ?)

What do I care what some Montana sheep-rider thinks of California ratings? YDS was invented here, therefore our ratings are definitive -- all others are merely derivative approximations.

The worst part is I think dugl33 is being serious.Crazy

the folks at science magazine speficially wrote about this and his ego costing too much for ceturions on the sharp end. i bet he's never downclimbed 5.6 slab for six hundred feet either.

Well played, but couldn't you have worked a felt hat and $0.25 Gu in there somehow?


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ubu wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
chadnsc wrote:
dugl33 wrote:
enigma wrote:
dugl33 wrote:
enigma wrote:

Have you climbed in Joshua Tree? So a climb such as illusion dweller which I believe is a 5.11 would be a 5.10a in Montana?

Illusion Dweller is rated 10b, which seems about right.

You are right!

( what about Left Ski Track-5.11a/or Northwest Finger Crack -5.11a--J.Tree
are those equal to climbs in Montana that are rated 5.10a ?)

What do I care what some Montana sheep-rider thinks of California ratings? YDS was invented here, therefore our ratings are definitive -- all others are merely derivative approximations.

The worst part is I think dugl33 is being serious.Crazy

the folks at science magazine speficially wrote about this and his ego costing too much for ceturions on the sharp end. i bet he's never downclimbed 5.6 slab for six hundred feet either.

Well played, but couldn't you have worked a felt hat and $0.25 Gu in there somehow?


Why didn't you bring the Maryland crabs from the harbor with old bay seasoning.
Don't you live near Fells Point?

You don't even climb, at least you could have dressed up like Ashton Kutcher in the Spread for the Josh Fiesta.
Laugh


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enigma wrote:
ubu wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
chadnsc wrote:
dugl33 wrote:
enigma wrote:
dugl33 wrote:
enigma wrote:

Have you climbed in Joshua Tree? So a climb such as illusion dweller which I believe is a 5.11 would be a 5.10a in Montana?

Illusion Dweller is rated 10b, which seems about right.

You are right!

( what about Left Ski Track-5.11a/or Northwest Finger Crack -5.11a--J.Tree
are those equal to climbs in Montana that are rated 5.10a ?)

What do I care what some Montana sheep-rider thinks of California ratings? YDS was invented here, therefore our ratings are definitive -- all others are merely derivative approximations.

The worst part is I think dugl33 is being serious.Crazy

the folks at science magazine speficially wrote about this and his ego costing too much for ceturions on the sharp end. i bet he's never downclimbed 5.6 slab for six hundred feet either.

Well played, but couldn't you have worked a felt hat and $0.25 Gu in there somehow?


Why didn't you bring the Maryland crabs from the harbor with old bay seasoning.
Don't you live near Fells Point?

You don't even climb, at least you could have dressed up like Ashton Kutcher in the Spread for the Josh Fiesta.
Laugh

It's kinda cute the way your crazy makes you flail around randomly.

Sort of like a Japanese fish with 10,000 times the allowed radiation limit.


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ubu wrote:
enigma wrote:
ubu wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
chadnsc wrote:
dugl33 wrote:
enigma wrote:
dugl33 wrote:
enigma wrote:

Have you climbed in Joshua Tree? So a climb such as illusion dweller which I believe is a 5.11 would be a 5.10a in Montana?

Illusion Dweller is rated 10b, which seems about right.

You are right!

( what about Left Ski Track-5.11a/or Northwest Finger Crack -5.11a--J.Tree
are those equal to climbs in Montana that are rated 5.10a ?)

What do I care what some Montana sheep-rider thinks of California ratings? YDS was invented here, therefore our ratings are definitive -- all others are merely derivative approximations.

The worst part is I think dugl33 is being serious.Crazy

the folks at science magazine speficially wrote about this and his ego costing too much for ceturions on the sharp end. i bet he's never downclimbed 5.6 slab for six hundred feet either.

Well played, but couldn't you have worked a felt hat and $0.25 Gu in there somehow?


Why didn't you bring the Maryland crabs from the harbor with old bay seasoning.
Don't you live near Fells Point?

You don't even climb, at least you could have dressed up like Ashton Kutcher in the Spread for the Josh Fiesta.
Laugh

It's kinda cute the way your crazy makes you flail around randomly.

Sort of like a Japanese fish with 10,000 times the allowed radiation limit.


Just look up the Joshua Tree Fiesta from April 1, 2011 with Sabra.

Why don't you climb? Did you ever climb? Why not put up a picture of you climbing?
Its a climbing site, Ubu Boo-boo Laugh


ubu


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enigma wrote:
ubu wrote:
enigma wrote:
ubu wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
chadnsc wrote:
dugl33 wrote:
enigma wrote:
dugl33 wrote:
enigma wrote:

Have you climbed in Joshua Tree? So a climb such as illusion dweller which I believe is a 5.11 would be a 5.10a in Montana?

Illusion Dweller is rated 10b, which seems about right.

You are right!

( what about Left Ski Track-5.11a/or Northwest Finger Crack -5.11a--J.Tree
are those equal to climbs in Montana that are rated 5.10a ?)

What do I care what some Montana sheep-rider thinks of California ratings? YDS was invented here, therefore our ratings are definitive -- all others are merely derivative approximations.

The worst part is I think dugl33 is being serious.Crazy

the folks at science magazine speficially wrote about this and his ego costing too much for ceturions on the sharp end. i bet he's never downclimbed 5.6 slab for six hundred feet either.

Well played, but couldn't you have worked a felt hat and $0.25 Gu in there somehow?


Why didn't you bring the Maryland crabs from the harbor with old bay seasoning.
Don't you live near Fells Point?

You don't even climb, at least you could have dressed up like Ashton Kutcher in the Spread for the Josh Fiesta.
Laugh

It's kinda cute the way your crazy makes you flail around randomly.

Sort of like a Japanese fish with 10,000 times the allowed radiation limit.


Just look up the Joshua Tree Fiesta from April 1, 2011 with Sabra.

Why don't you climb? Did you ever climb? Why not put up a picture of you climbing?
Its a climbing site, Ubu Boo-boo Laugh

You first.


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[quote "ubuSort of like a Japanese fish with 10,000 times the allowed radiation limit.
I love sushi - but these fish are already cooked!


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ubu wrote:
enigma wrote:
ubu wrote:
enigma wrote:
ubu wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
chadnsc wrote:
dugl33 wrote:
enigma wrote:
dugl33 wrote:
enigma wrote:

Have you climbed in Joshua Tree? So a climb such as illusion dweller which I believe is a 5.11 would be a 5.10a in Montana?

Illusion Dweller is rated 10b, which seems about right.

You are right!

( what about Left Ski Track-5.11a/or Northwest Finger Crack -5.11a--J.Tree
are those equal to climbs in Montana that are rated 5.10a ?)

What do I care what some Montana sheep-rider thinks of California ratings? YDS was invented here, therefore our ratings are definitive -- all others are merely derivative approximations.

The worst part is I think dugl33 is being serious.Crazy

the folks at science magazine speficially wrote about this and his ego costing too much for ceturions on the sharp end. i bet he's never downclimbed 5.6 slab for six hundred feet either.

Well played, but couldn't you have worked a felt hat and $0.25 Gu in there somehow?


Why didn't you bring the Maryland crabs from the harbor with old bay seasoning.
Don't you live near Fells Point?

You don't even climb, at least you could have dressed up like Ashton Kutcher in the Spread for the Josh Fiesta.
Laugh

It's kinda cute the way your crazy makes you flail around randomly.

Sort of like a Japanese fish with 10,000 times the allowed radiation limit.


Just look up the Joshua Tree Fiesta from April 1, 2011 with Sabra.

Why don't you climb? Did you ever climb? Why not put up a picture of you climbing?
Its a climbing site, Ubu Boo-boo Laugh

You first.

Its already on my profile.

So Ubu-Boo-Boo you have been here over 2 years, not one climbing photo of you. Not any mention of where you have climbed. No climbing log.

So based on the information on your profile , you haven't climbed , I'm done wasting my time with you.
You are a poser .


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enigma wrote:
ubu wrote:
enigma wrote:
ubu wrote:
enigma wrote:
ubu wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
chadnsc wrote:
dugl33 wrote:
enigma wrote:
dugl33 wrote:
enigma wrote:

Have you climbed in Joshua Tree? So a climb such as illusion dweller which I believe is a 5.11 would be a 5.10a in Montana?

Illusion Dweller is rated 10b, which seems about right.

You are right!

( what about Left Ski Track-5.11a/or Northwest Finger Crack -5.11a--J.Tree
are those equal to climbs in Montana that are rated 5.10a ?)

What do I care what some Montana sheep-rider thinks of California ratings? YDS was invented here, therefore our ratings are definitive -- all others are merely derivative approximations.

The worst part is I think dugl33 is being serious.Crazy

the folks at science magazine speficially wrote about this and his ego costing too much for ceturions on the sharp end. i bet he's never downclimbed 5.6 slab for six hundred feet either.

Well played, but couldn't you have worked a felt hat and $0.25 Gu in there somehow?


Why didn't you bring the Maryland crabs from the harbor with old bay seasoning.
Don't you live near Fells Point?

You don't even climb, at least you could have dressed up like Ashton Kutcher in the Spread for the Josh Fiesta.
Laugh

It's kinda cute the way your crazy makes you flail around randomly.

Sort of like a Japanese fish with 10,000 times the allowed radiation limit.


Just look up the Joshua Tree Fiesta from April 1, 2011 with Sabra.

Why don't you climb? Did you ever climb? Why not put up a picture of you climbing?
Its a climbing site, Ubu Boo-boo Laugh

You first.

Its already on my profile.

So Ubu-Boo-Boo you have been here over 2 years, not one climbing photo of you. Not any mention of where you have climbed. No climbing log.

So based on the information on your profile , you haven't climbed , I'm done wasting my time with you.
You are a poser .

Well, since I don't give a rat's ass about your stellar climbing, er... downcliming, career, I can't say that clicking on your profile ever really occurred to me. I know that's tough on your bloated yet fragile ego, but I can only do so much. Let's see, I'll go take a peek...wait, I thought you said you look like Angelina Jolie wtf??? I'M GONNA SUE!


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mheyman wrote:
"ubu wrote:
Sort of like a Japanese fish with 10,000 times the allowed radiation limit.

I love sushi - but these fish are already cooked!

Heh, Enigma the Pseudoscientific Reactionary Fearmonger sure seems to think so...

enigma wrote:
Oh, be extra careful of fish, its pretty much all tainted with radiation levels millions of times above the regulatory limit


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ubu wrote:
enigma wrote:
ubu wrote:
enigma wrote:
ubu wrote:
enigma wrote:
ubu wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
chadnsc wrote:
dugl33 wrote:
enigma wrote:
dugl33 wrote:
enigma wrote:

Have you climbed in Joshua Tree? So a climb such as illusion dweller which I believe is a 5.11 would be a 5.10a in Montana?

Illusion Dweller is rated 10b, which seems about right.

You are right!

( what about Left Ski Track-5.11a/or Northwest Finger Crack -5.11a--J.Tree
are those equal to climbs in Montana that are rated 5.10a ?)

What do I care what some Montana sheep-rider thinks of California ratings? YDS was invented here, therefore our ratings are definitive -- all others are merely derivative approximations.

The worst part is I think dugl33 is being serious.Crazy

the folks at science magazine speficially wrote about this and his ego costing too much for ceturions on the sharp end. i bet he's never downclimbed 5.6 slab for six hundred feet either.

Well played, but couldn't you have worked a felt hat and $0.25 Gu in there somehow?


Why didn't you bring the Maryland crabs from the harbor with old bay seasoning.
Don't you live near Fells Point?

You don't even climb, at least you could have dressed up like Ashton Kutcher in the Spread for the Josh Fiesta.
Laugh

It's kinda cute the way your crazy makes you flail around randomly.

Sort of like a Japanese fish with 10,000 times the allowed radiation limit.


Just look up the Joshua Tree Fiesta from April 1, 2011 with Sabra.

Why don't you climb? Did you ever climb? Why not put up a picture of you climbing?
Its a climbing site, Ubu Boo-boo Laugh

You first.

Its already on my profile.

So Ubu-Boo-Boo you have been here over 2 years, not one climbing photo of you. Not any mention of where you have climbed. No climbing log.

So based on the information on your profile , you haven't climbed , I'm done wasting my time with you.
You are a poser .

Well, since I don't give a rat's ass about your stellar climbing, er... downcliming, career, I can't say that clicking on your profile ever really occurred to me. I know that's tough on your bloated yet fragile ego, but I can only do so much. Let's see, I'll go take a peek...wait, I thought you said you look like Angelina Jolie wtf??? I'M GONNA SUE!

Poser, Loser .
I'll win in court too. Bring It on Ubu-Boo-Boo
You are not a climber this is a rockclimbing site.

Go away to face-bash Pirate


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enigma wrote:
ubu wrote:
enigma wrote:
ubu wrote:
enigma wrote:
ubu wrote:
enigma wrote:
ubu wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
chadnsc wrote:
dugl33 wrote:
enigma wrote:
dugl33 wrote:
enigma wrote:

Have you climbed in Joshua Tree? So a climb such as illusion dweller which I believe is a 5.11 would be a 5.10a in Montana?

Illusion Dweller is rated 10b, which seems about right.

You are right!

( what about Left Ski Track-5.11a/or Northwest Finger Crack -5.11a--J.Tree
are those equal to climbs in Montana that are rated 5.10a ?)

What do I care what some Montana sheep-rider thinks of California ratings? YDS was invented here, therefore our ratings are definitive -- all others are merely derivative approximations.

The worst part is I think dugl33 is being serious.Crazy

the folks at science magazine speficially wrote about this and his ego costing too much for ceturions on the sharp end. i bet he's never downclimbed 5.6 slab for six hundred feet either.

Well played, but couldn't you have worked a felt hat and $0.25 Gu in there somehow?


Why didn't you bring the Maryland crabs from the harbor with old bay seasoning.
Don't you live near Fells Point?

You don't even climb, at least you could have dressed up like Ashton Kutcher in the Spread for the Josh Fiesta.
Laugh

It's kinda cute the way your crazy makes you flail around randomly.

Sort of like a Japanese fish with 10,000 times the allowed radiation limit.


Just look up the Joshua Tree Fiesta from April 1, 2011 with Sabra.

Why don't you climb? Did you ever climb? Why not put up a picture of you climbing?
Its a climbing site, Ubu Boo-boo Laugh

You first.

Its already on my profile.

So Ubu-Boo-Boo you have been here over 2 years, not one climbing photo of you. Not any mention of where you have climbed. No climbing log.

So based on the information on your profile , you haven't climbed , I'm done wasting my time with you.
You are a poser .

Well, since I don't give a rat's ass about your stellar climbing, er... downcliming, career, I can't say that clicking on your profile ever really occurred to me. I know that's tough on your bloated yet fragile ego, but I can only do so much. Let's see, I'll go take a peek...wait, I thought you said you look like Angelina Jolie wtf??? I'M GONNA SUE!

Poser, Loser .
I'll win in court too. Bring in on Ubu-Boo-Boo
You are not a climber this is a rockclimbing site.

Go away to face-bash Pirate

Are you related to Charlie Sheen by any chance?


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enigma wrote:
While there alot of good reasons to lead.
I've noticed that quite a bit of ladies don't even bother.
The reason is simple.
Generally the men I climb with lead harder and they want to climb harder
So I'm happy just to follow.

So if my partner can lead to 5.11 trad.
They are going to want to try to climb as close to that.
Personally I don't want to get hurt . So its not important to me.

If you are a guy ;
I presume your male ego forces you to lead?
However given the chance would you rather follow?
Can guys admit this?
I also have heard guys don't like other males to climb harder then them. Is that true?

What's your opinion on this subject?

I am not one of 'those' women.

If a guy I climb with climbs harder (usually the case as I prefer climbing with those higher level than me), I pick my own lead climbs, and I belay him on his.

I still like to get my leads in there too you know Tongue

Besides, aren't women really the true leaders in this world?

Edited just to say.. I did not intend that to come out bold sorry.


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I agree with you. whatever you want to do and makes you happy is right. Lead On !!


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I agree with you. whatever you want to do and makes you happy is right. Lead On !!

Then why start a lame thread attempting to pick apart users and fail epically?


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ubu wrote:
enigma wrote:
ubu wrote:
enigma wrote:
ubu wrote:
enigma wrote:
ubu wrote:
Gmburns2000 wrote:
chadnsc wrote:
dugl33 wrote:
enigma wrote:
dugl33 wrote:
enigma wrote:

Have you climbed in Joshua Tree? So a climb such as illusion dweller which I believe is a 5.11 would be a 5.10a in Montana?

Illusion Dweller is rated 10b, which seems about right.

You are right!

( what about Left Ski Track-5.11a/or Northwest Finger Crack -5.11a--J.Tree
are those equal to climbs in Montana that are rated 5.10a ?)

What do I care what some Montana sheep-rider thinks of California ratings? YDS was invented here, therefore our ratings are definitive -- all others are merely derivative approximations.

The worst part is I think dugl33 is being serious.Crazy

the folks at science magazine speficially wrote about this and his ego costing too much for ceturions on the sharp end. i bet he's never downclimbed 5.6 slab for six hundred feet either.

Well played, but couldn't you have worked a felt hat and $0.25 Gu in there somehow?


Why didn't you bring the Maryland crabs from the harbor with old bay seasoning.
Don't you live near Fells Point?

You don't even climb, at least you could have dressed up like Ashton Kutcher in the Spread for the Josh Fiesta.
Laugh

It's kinda cute the way your crazy makes you flail around randomly.

Sort of like a Japanese fish with 10,000 times the allowed radiation limit.


Just look up the Joshua Tree Fiesta from April 1, 2011 with Sabra.

Why don't you climb? Did you ever climb? Why not put up a picture of you climbing?
Its a climbing site, Ubu Boo-boo Laugh

You first.

Its already on my profile.

So Ubu-Boo-Boo you have been here over 2 years, not one climbing photo of you. Not any mention of where you have climbed. No climbing log.

So based on the information on your profile , you haven't climbed , I'm done wasting my time with you.
You are a poser .

Well, since I don't give a rat's ass about your stellar climbing, er... downcliming, career, I can't say that clicking on your profile ever really occurred to me. I know that's tough on your bloated yet fragile ego, but I can only do so much. Let's see, I'll go take a peek...wait, I thought you said you look like Angelina Jolie wtf??? I'M GONNA SUE!
pointing out this gem made this thread all worth it

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