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i used to eat eggs with a vengance (vegan now). I'd eat 2 or 3 for breakfast and have at least one hardboiled egg during the day. I'd eat raw and "runny" eggs on a regular basis as well. Not once did I ever get sick from it.
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cracklover
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marc801 wrote: enigma wrote: <Her usual silly half-baked nonsense> Perhaps you could do some research before making unsubstantiated claims.
Hahahahahahahahaha!
That's a good one! And I wish my cat would do something useful around the house, like help with the laundry.
It is a nice thought, though.
GO
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Bacon is the gateway meat to become non-vegan.
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saint_john
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marc801 wrote: saint_john wrote: i used to eat eggs with a vengance... I'm trying to envision that..... 
if you'd have seen me manically breaking and cooking eggs as I rushed to get ready for work in the morning you'd understand. 
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epoch wrote: Bacon is the gateway meat to become non-vegan.
This is very true. I was raised as a vegan. But then bacon called.
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marc801
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enigma wrote: Thanks , I haven't had meat or chicken,lamb. ham etc for 9 years . I pretty much know its unhealthy due to the antibotics, high fat, hormones and on top of that I have found scientic research that bears this out.
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saint_john
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epoch wrote: Bacon is the gateway meat to become non-vegan.
i don't miss beef or poultry at all. Pig, on the other hand, has been tough to give up.
I used to dry rub a pork shoulder and then roast it for 10 hours in the oven. my god, it was like greasy heaven.
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saint_john
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MUST... STAY... STRONG... 
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saint_john
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pork belly is amazing. my city is known for pork and we have some chefs in town that are doing wonderful things with it.
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Greggle wrote: jt512 wrote: OK, what about if you're healthy and you don't follow "proper kitchen cleanliness protocol," since I don't know anybody but me who does? Jay Jay, I'm genuinely curious. How do you crack your eggs?
I knock them on something. Why?
Jay
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jt512 wrote: Greggle wrote: Jay, I'm genuinely curious. How do you crack your eggs? I knock them on something. Is there some other way?
Stare at them intently with a baleful gaze?
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enigma
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saint_john wrote: epoch wrote: Bacon is the gateway meat to become non-vegan. i don't miss beef or poultry at all. Pig, on the other hand, has been tough to give up. I used to dry rub a pork shoulder and then roast it for 10 hours in the oven. my god, it was like greasy heaven.
yes it was tasty yesterday
not so much when now when you know
There is always MorningStar Fake Bacon
It tastes pretty good and it gets crispy. You could eat it with an egg subsitute.
They also have these spicy black bean patties, you can put some soy cheese and salsa. Then you put it crumbled up on top of salad. Yum
Hey lets share our favorite vegetarian and vegan favorite recipes , What's yours?
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enigma
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happiegrrrl wrote: I eat sugar, drink coffee, eat meat... And I am pretty sure that giving up on all those won't get me climbing harder. To choose a diet ONLY to climb harder seems to go against any traditionalist views, I think. Gotta be a sport climber thang!
I drink coffee with soy milk or black if its fresh and good.
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enigma
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epoch wrote: Bacon is the gateway meat to become non-vegan.
They say its the hardest and usually the last thing vegetarians give up.
However its impossible to go back. I believe you loose the enzymes to digest meat after awhile.
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enigma
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gmggg wrote: epoch wrote: Bacon is the gateway meat to become non-vegan. This is very true. I was raised as a vegan. But then bacon called.
That's quite unusual 
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enigma
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marc801 wrote: enigma wrote: Thanks , I haven't had meat or chicken,lamb. ham etc for 9 years . I pretty much know its unhealthy due to the antibotics, high fat, hormones and on top of that I have found scientic research that bears this out. Meat that is certified organic doesn't have antibiotics or added hormones.
That's what they say. meat eaters have 25%-50% ,more likely to get cancer.
Not to mention E-coli.
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enigma
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shockabuku wrote: dr_feelgood wrote: shockabuku wrote: marc801 wrote: jt512 wrote: OK, what about if you're healthy and you don't follow "proper kitchen cleanliness protocol," since I don't know anybody but me who does? Actually, I do as well. Frankly though, salmonella simply isn't all that virulent. It all hinges on how many organisms you get in a single dose. 1000 organisms/ml may have no effect while 100K org/ml has you spending all day in the bathroom. More like all week. I had it when I was 18. It was a very bad experience. It's a great weigh loss plan. Effective, yes; great, not so much. For a couple of days after admission to the hospital they didn't know what I had. Raging fever, puking and shitting out anything other than small amounts of water I took in. This was in basic training where no one knew me and my family was multiple states away. Mid 80s. They actually thought I had AIDS for a day or so and put me in isolation. Then the hospital administration chewed me out for telling my parents (over the phone) that I had other than an upper respiratory infection.
That sounds awful. I have heard that you can't tell your parents in basic training anything but a scripted letter.
So how long did you suffer from salmonella?
Did others that ate eggs with you get it too?
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enigma
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enigma wrote: shockabuku wrote: marc801 wrote: shockabuku wrote: More like all week. I had it when I was 18. It was a very bad experience. Out of curiosity, was it confirmed as salmonella? Quite unpleasantly, yes. Cracklover does this experience of shockabuku from salmonella sound silly? Or the report from August 10 2010 from the Christopher Braden CDC BREITBART- WASHINGTON ASSOCIATED PRESS
AUGUST 10 2010 2000 Cases Reported -Christopher Braden-Epidemoligist- Federal Center of Disease Control
This form of salmonella is tied to outbreak can be passed from chickens that appear healthy grows inside egg not just on shell/ 1/2 billion eggs recalled Iowa Hillandale Farms connected earlier this week Wright County Farm 380 million recalled 14 states cases often go undetected due to people not going to doctors and hospitals to get stool samples. Estimates cases of poisoning may be 30 times higher than reported-FDA /CDC
perhaps if you get salmonella from eggs you won't feel silly?
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enigma
Mar 15, 2011, 10:12 AM
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dr_feelgood wrote: shockabuku wrote: marc801 wrote: jt512 wrote: OK, what about if you're healthy and you don't follow "proper kitchen cleanliness protocol," since I don't know anybody but me who does? Actually, I do as well. Frankly though, salmonella simply isn't all that virulent. It all hinges on how many organisms you get in a single dose. 1000 organisms/ml may have no effect while 100K org/ml has you spending all day in the bathroom. More like all week. I had it when I was 18. It was a very bad experience. It's a great weigh loss plan.
I didn't realize it took a week to recover? that must have been awful. No more raw chocolate chip cookie dough for me. I sometimes have it in frozen yogurt.
Salmonella , Is terrible
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saint_john
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In reply to: Hey lets share our favorite vegetarian and vegan favorite recipes , What's yours?
I make quinoa porridge with almond milk for breakfast. I usually throw slivered almonds, fruit, cinnamon and honey in it.
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Mar 15, 2011, 2:05 PM
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saint_john wrote: In reply to: Hey lets share our favorite vegetarian and vegan favorite recipes , What's yours? I make quinoa porridge with almond milk for breakfast. I usually throw slivered almonds, fruit, cinnamon and honey in it.
The addition of the descicated bee vomit just makes that sound scrumptious.
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macherry
Mar 15, 2011, 2:18 PM
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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote: saint_john wrote: In reply to: Hey lets share our favorite vegetarian and vegan favorite recipes , What's yours? I make quinoa porridge with almond milk for breakfast. I usually throw slivered almonds, fruit, cinnamon and honey in it. The addition of the descicated bee vomit just makes that sound scrumptious.
maple syrup for the win
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saint_john
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macherry wrote: Toast_in_the_Machine wrote: saint_john wrote: In reply to: Hey lets share our favorite vegetarian and vegan favorite recipes , What's yours? I make quinoa porridge with almond milk for breakfast. I usually throw slivered almonds, fruit, cinnamon and honey in it. The addition of the descicated bee vomit just makes that sound scrumptious. maple syrup for the win
you can't go wrong with bee vomit or tree secretion.
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