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macherry wrote: Toast_in_the_Machine wrote: saint_john wrote: In reply to: Hey lets share our favorite vegetarian and vegan favorite recipes , What's yours? I make quinoa porridge with almond milk for breakfast. I usually throw slivered almonds, fruit, cinnamon and honey in it. The addition of the descicated bee vomit just makes that sound scrumptious. maple syrup for the win
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epoch
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enigma wrote: saint_john wrote: epoch wrote: Bacon is the gateway meat to become non-vegan. i don't miss beef or poultry at all. Pig, on the other hand, has been tough to give up. I used to dry rub a pork shoulder and then roast it for 10 hours in the oven. my god, it was like greasy heaven. yes it was tasty yesterday not so much when now when you know There is always MorningStar Fake Bacon It tastes pretty good and it gets crispy. You could eat it with an egg subsitute. They also have these spicy black bean patties, you can put some soy cheese and salsa. Then you put it crumbled up on top of salad. Yum Hey lets share our favorite vegetarian and vegan favorite recipes , What's yours?
Get pork belly.
Dip it in molasses.
Place on barbecue.
Cook until done.
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epoch
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enigma wrote: marc801 wrote: enigma wrote: Thanks , I haven't had meat or chicken,lamb. ham etc for 9 years . I pretty much know its unhealthy due to the antibotics, high fat, hormones and on top of that I have found scientic research that bears this out. Meat that is certified organic doesn't have antibiotics or added hormones. That's what they say. meat eaters have 25%-50% ,more likely to get cancer. Not to mention E-coli.
Your numbers have no merit.
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chadnsc
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epoch wrote: enigma wrote: marc801 wrote: enigma wrote: Thanks , I haven't had meat or chicken,lamb. ham etc for 9 years . I pretty much know its unhealthy due to the antibotics, high fat, hormones and on top of that I have found scientic research that bears this out. Meat that is certified organic doesn't have antibiotics or added hormones. That's what they say. meat eaters have 25%-50% ,more likely to get cancer. Not to mention E-coli. Your numbers have no merit.
Or basis in fact for that matter. 
Enigma you're talking out of your ass, please stop your breath stinks.
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cracklover
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macherry wrote: Toast_in_the_Machine wrote: saint_john wrote: In reply to: Hey lets share our favorite vegetarian and vegan favorite recipes , What's yours? I make quinoa porridge with almond milk for breakfast. I usually throw slivered almonds, fruit, cinnamon and honey in it. The addition of the descicated bee vomit just makes that sound scrumptious. maple syrup for the win
If you're okay with draining the blood from living helpless trees, while they scream their pain to the world, that's fine with me.
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Jay what's better for you, honey or maple syrup? we're talking real, premium Maple syrup. Not Aunt Jamima crap.
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macherry
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cracklover wrote: macherry wrote: Toast_in_the_Machine wrote: saint_john wrote: In reply to: Hey lets share our favorite vegetarian and vegan favorite recipes , What's yours? I make quinoa porridge with almond milk for breakfast. I usually throw slivered almonds, fruit, cinnamon and honey in it. The addition of the descicated bee vomit just makes that sound scrumptious. maple syrup for the win If you're okay with draining the blood from living helpless trees, while they scream their pain to the world, that's fine with me. G
they died for my sins
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Stoves
Mar 15, 2011, 4:36 PM
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Actually Enigma is right.
Keep in mind that 40% of cancer is preventable and 27% of all cancer deaths are attributed to poor diet.
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Stoves wrote: Actually Enigma is right. Keep in mind that 40% of cancer is preventable and 27% of all cancer deaths are attributed to poor diet.
As has been stated upthread, it has not yet been determined if it is as simple as "eating meat gives you more likelihood of cancer." As near as I understand it, they are starting to see the culprit more as processed meats, rather than all meat or even all red meat. Earlier studies linking meat to cancer did not distinguish between "fresh" red meats and processed lunch meats, bacons, sausages, etc.
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Stoves wrote: Actually Enigma is right. Keep in mind that 40% of cancer is preventable and 27% of all cancer deaths are attributed to poor diet.
Actually enigma and you are wrong and the numbers you're stating are inncorrect.
Edit: Damn Cam GU'ed me!
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shockabuku
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There's no secrecy surrounding basic training - but there's a lot of stupid bureacrucy associated with any facet of the government that prohibits effective flow of information.
Anyway, I was actively sick for maybe 4 days to a week, then stayed in the hospital for a few more days until I was strong enough to walk around well enough to be discharged.
I think I actually got it from a Chicken ala king MRE. It was the first time I had ever had one and I remember it tasting just horrible; I've tried it since and it's normally not bad. I got sick within a day of eating it. They Army solution was that I didn't wash my hands properly and that there wasn't anything wrong with the food.
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Toast_in_the_Machine
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chadnsc wrote: Stoves wrote: Actually Enigma is right. Keep in mind that 40% of cancer is preventable and 27% of all cancer deaths are attributed to poor diet. Actually enigma and you are wrong and the numbers you're stating are inncorrect. Edit: Damn Cam GU'ed me!
Damn, I was looking up the exact numbers and I guess I took too long.
The "poor diet" in the study I saw was shorthand for being obese or having an unbalanced diet. Both of which can be achieved thru vegetarianism if so desired.
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enigma wrote: meat eaters have 25%-50% ,more likely to get cancer.
Bullshit.
Jay
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jt512
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Stoves wrote: Actually Enigma is right.
No. She's not.
Jay
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Stoves
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Jay do you believe that vegetarians are less likely to get cancer then non vegetarians?
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jt512 wrote: Stoves wrote: Actually Enigma is right. No. She's not. Jay
Almost sig worthy. It's certainly timeless.
GO
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Stoves wrote: Jay do you believe that vegetarians are less likely to get cancer then non vegetarians?
Tough question. Quick answer: probably slightly less likely, due to avoidance of red meat, cured meats, and higher intake of fruits and vegetables.
Jay
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jt512 wrote: Stoves wrote: Jay do you believe that vegetarians are less likely to get cancer then non vegetarians? Tough question. Quick answer: probably slightly less likely. Jay
He's not asking for "probablies." What do you BELIEVE and feel in your gut? Have faith! Your the decider!
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camhead wrote: jt512 wrote: Stoves wrote: Jay do you believe that vegetarians are less likely to get cancer then non vegetarians? Tough question. Quick answer: probably slightly less likely. Jay He's not asking for "probablies." What do you BELIEVE and feel in your gut? Have faith! Your the decider!
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So you agree with me that meat eaters are more likely to get cancer, good. However this was a tough question for you. You will be more assured after looking into the link between red meat and stomach cancer.
Now do you think vegetarians are less likely to smoke? Drink? Are they less likely to be fat? ( do you see where I'm going with this?)
if you compare two people that have the same lifestlye and one of them is a veggie and the other is not then of course that saying the meat eater is 25-40% more likely to get cancer is absurd and a lie.
But the truth is that vegetarians have a healthier lifestyle then meat eaters. All those factors combined come to that 25-40%.
Sorry for the lack of elaboration on this I'm mobile at the moment
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Stoves wrote: So you agree with me that meat eaters are more likely to get cancer, good. However this was a tough question for you. You will be more assured after looking into the link between red meat and stomach cancer. Now do you think vegetarians are less likely to smoke? Drink? Are they less likely to be fat? ( do you see where I'm going with this?) if you compare two people that have the same lifestlye and one of them is a veggie and the other is not then of course that saying the meat eater is 25-40% more likely to get cancer is absurd and a lie. But the truth is that vegetarians have a healthier lifestyle then meat eaters. All those factors combined come to that 25-40%. Sorry for the lack of elaboration on this I'm mobile at the moment
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Stoves wrote: So you agree with me that meat eaters are more likely to get cancer, good. However this was a tough question for you. You will be more assured after looking into the link between red meat and stomach cancer. Now do you think vegetarians are less likely to smoke? Drink? Are they less likely to be fat? ( do you see where I'm going with this?) if you compare two people that have the same lifestlye and one of them is a veggie and the other is not then of course that saying the meat eater is 25-40% more likely to get cancer is absurd and a lie. But the truth is that vegetarians have a healthier lifestyle then meat eaters. All those factors combined come to that 25-40%. Sorry for the lack of elaboration on this I'm mobile at the moment
Yeah Stoves does sound like enigma, but with better grammar and sentence structure.
Regardless Stoves is still making assumptions and talking out of his ass.
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First you call me stupid, then a troll and now a
male enigma. Sounds like progress. I love you two spike
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chadnsc
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Stoves wrote: First you call me stupid, then a troll and now a male enigma. Sounds like progress. I love you two spike
If you consider that progress than you're a bigger fool than you appear to be.
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